Swipe

#0 - March 11, 2009, 1:17 p.m.
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Ghostcrawler has announced that they are taking a look at swipe as they agree that we are suffering a bit in AOE tanking situations.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15276981917&sid=1&pageNo=3
#2 - March 11, 2009, 5:45 p.m.
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Ghostcrawler has announced that they are taking a look at swipe as they agree that we are suffering a bit in AOE tanking situations.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15276981917&sid=1&pageNo=3


Just blue-tagging this as I am sure not everybody has seen this. :-)

Ghostcrawler also posted a follow-up later in that thread:
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And I still have to say I don't think we can have our cake and eat it too in this case. We either have to spam it and it is spammable, or we don't have to spam it and it has a cool down.


This is true.

The benefit of Thunderclap is it does a lot of threat in one application. The downside is that if the warrior needs AE threat while it's on cooldown, he needs to use another ability (Shockwave if talented, or perhaps Challenging Shout.)

Consecrate and DnD have their downsides too. They tick, which is nice from a hands off approach. But it's also really easy for a moving add to make it all the way through the pool without getting a tick on them.

We were okay with Swipe being a little harder to use, since when it was used well it was just as effective as other AEs. But we now wonder if it has gone too far from a test of skill to a liability that makes people not want to group with druid tanks. Nobody wants to hear "Oh, just let the paladin grab the adds. It will be easier." It was humiliating in Karazhan for the Holy paladin to tank the ghosts that the warrior or druid couldn't hold down. (No disrepect to the pallies.)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15276981917&sid=1&pageNo=9#161