Regional Flagchange to the item level dungeon entry system needed...Source
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Molochius
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#1 - 2011/01/13 11:43:00 PM
at the moment it makes no sense guys im so pissed off now, I finnaly got the item level to enter heroics......ive been running them for the last 2 days with no problems no luck with drops yet but ive been performing well, 1st or 2nd dps usually.....I logon this evening to try and run some more for my daily badges etc..........to find i can no longer enter them.....why you may ask? because my item level has dropped to 323 from 330.......this puzzled me as i havnt changed any of my gear what so ever, in fact my item level should have gone up as i bourght the level 346 offhand sword with my justice points to replace the level 313 mace i did have in offhand.....so i asked in guild if anyone knew what was going on here and I found out the reason....


....you know why my item level dropped? because I had 3 peices of bloodied pyrium armor in my bag and it was these items which were boosting my item level.....hell i didnt even know armor in bags effecting the figure and you know what blizzard this is retarded........what your telling me is im ok for heroics if i have 3 peices of pvp gear that actully lower my dps if i put them on instead of pve gear and these peices are in my bags not even on me.......but if i get rid of them im suddenly incapable of running a heroics? how retarded a system is that? the items in question 1. were not even equipped, and 2. are pvp items so should actully lower my item level in a pve setting if the system works the way it should do.

any chance of a rethink on this? im pretty pissed off now that my only option to run more heroics is to either 1.wait for a couple of lucky drops in normal runs which could take god knows how long or 2. spend gold to buy the pvp peices back only to have them sit in my bag and not even be used, this is even more frustrating when I think that I was actully handling myself fine in heroics with the gear I currently have, putting out 10-14k dps on a regular basis.

but no I cant run them anymore because I dont have these useless pvp set peices in my bag to carry around......tell me thats not working as intended? why the hell should armor you dont even have equipped effect your ability to run content? let alone pvp items in a pve setting? simply retarded!

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#10 - 2011/01/14 01:44:00 PM
If you feel you were performing fine in heroics but no longer have the required gear level to queue for a random LFD, maybe try the old fashioned method of creating a dungeon group yourself. Group up with some of your friends and guildmates instead, and then just walk right into the dungeon entrance rather than using the LFD. You might only need to do this a few times till you get your gear level up high enough to use the LFD again.

Alternatively you could recreate the situation you had before, and just keep some higher item level gear in your bags or bank so you can use the LFD tool again. Yeah, it feels kinda sneaky, but if you're confident that your performance is fine and you know your health is high enough to take heroic damage, then this might work for you. The gear item level check for the LFD is very simple, and it's also simple to circumvent. Yes we could make it more complicated, but at the moment we're fine with how it's working. We're not currently very concerned that some circumvention is possible, because this can be useful in some cases.

Sure, I can see you're also a bit frustrated that you need to get your item level up to be able to get back into LFD heroics again, but that's part of the way gearing up goes. If you're not happy using the alternatives of keeping gear in your bags or walking directly into the dungeon entrance, then gearing up through the traditional method is the way to go.

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#17 - 2011/01/14 02:34:00 PM
14/01/2011 2:17 PMPosted by Lunkentus
So if there's an Swedish 12 year old, imature, NINJA Paladin who have "needed" (stolen) all cloth gears from healers, dps, ALL cloth carriers and THEN get into a HC, without the right experience, and the atitude to be in a HC. And then that little Kid will/can ruin for thousands of good, serious players who want to discover the content in the raids Blizzard have given us. Please fix this "bug".
If someone circumvents the gear level check to get into an LFD heroic but is actually unable to perform as needed -- perhaps due to being completely inappropriately geared or inexperienced as in your example, then groups are still able to vote kick that player out if need be.