Elder Charms??

Drop chances of gear in 5.0 raids have been increased substantially with 5.2, so even without the coins you have a much better chance of getting loot now than you did before even with a normal roll and a coin.

The chance of getting personal loot in Raid Finder and the chance of a successful bonus roll in Raid Finder have been greatly increased for the following raids, Mogu'shan Vaults, Heart of Fear, and Terrace of Endless Spring.

Also keep in mind the new 5.2 content isn't exclusive to people that have done all of the 5.0/5.1 content. It's tuned a little tougher but still someone can level to 90, jump straight to the Isle of Thunder, and start doing stuff on the island and finding Elder Charms. Even if you're still working on 5.0 raids, you should be looking to do some of the new 5.2 content.

The Elder Charms also drop fairly frequently on the isle.

03/05/2013 05:36 PMPosted by Mystraele

and with the other hand, make it much harder to obtain Elder Charms for those raids?

Considering you can almost literally find them just laying around in chests on the island, I wouldn't say it's necessarily harder to obtain them. Getting 90 Lesser Charms to convert into 3 probably took more time than it'll take to find 3 on the island.

This seems to be the case which REALLY might be the "straw" that brakes the camel's back for me. Already already tired of doing a ton of dailies on my main & alt already. Thunder Isle is just more of the same we've had before. It reeks of Golden Lotus gating mechanism. Especially seeing as we can't do the first new LFR until next week. Again, Blizzard at it's finest not testing crap properly before they release it.

You're ilvl 486, why are you looking for bonus rolls on 5.0 raids?

This needs to be hot fixed immediately. We had access to our Elder Charms last week. There was no reason to remove them this week.

It's going to stay this way, sorry if it caught you off guard. You'll be using your Lesser Charms to buy Mogu Runes which give bonus rolls on 5.2 content.

03/05/2013 06:06 PMPosted by Maximusrex

Unless they have been doubled, and mounts included in that doubling of droprate, this isn't an acceptable change

It's been more than doubled in some cases. We have to throw in free mounts too? Well... ok, the satchels you get off of bosses when you don't win an item now also have the chance to drop mounts and pets, among other things.

03/05/2013 06:06 PMPosted by Maximusrex

as you now require more work to have the same chance as before.

How so? Questing in older content to get Lesser Charms to turn in for Elder Charms... or questing in newer content just to find Elder Charms.

A good example of why we prefer new threads to posting on older ones! Information and mechanics do indeed change.