#5 - Sept. 18, 2023, 11:09 p.m.

Thank you for the thoughtful feedback! It’s always helpful to hear from specific perspectives like this. One relevant upcoming change is that Nymue’s Vengeful Spindle has been adjusted to deal less damage while granting additional Mastery and will be available for testing in the next PTR update. It should feel like a Mastery trinket that deals some damage rather than vice versa.

Tuning is very much ongoing and players can expect under- or overperforming effects to be brought in line. Community data from the PTR is very helpful alongside our internal processes for testing early tuning assumptions.

Ideally every tier presents players with a variety of viable trinket choices. Our goal with a caster-specific trinket like Belor’relos, the Sunstone would be that it finds a useful place somewhere in the toolkit across all caster classes, but not necessarily for every specialization that can use it. If Pip’s Emerald Friendship Badge and Ashes of the Embersoul are universally preferred over it by every caster in every situation, we would consider this a tuning failure.

In contrast, a trinket like Augury of the Primal Flame might simply scale better for non-casters to the point where it would be too powerful overall if it was balanced around caster performance.

#11 - Sept. 19, 2023, 4:41 a.m.

This is something we’ll keep an eye on as players get their hands on it. Trinkets with tradeoffs such as cast times, self-damage, or abnormal positioning requirements are intended to feel like a choice and an investment, and the payoff should be worth it both when considering both the numerical DPS contribution and the subjective ease of use.

As in the case of the Al’gethar Puzzle Box and Unholy Death Knights, role-specific modifiers are a tool we are more likely to consider when a trinket is substantially overperforming due to class mechanics as opposed to falling behind due to scaling differences.

#18 - Sept. 19, 2023, 6:03 p.m.

One more follow-up to this specifically regarding Augury of the Primal Flame and caster performance after reviewing some additional data: the proc chance has been changed to scale with the player’s haste. This will significantly increase its performance for specializations that prefer haste without much impact to melee specializations that do not. Thank you for helping to highlight this discrepancy!

#29 - Sept. 22, 2023, 8:04 p.m.

Thanks for the feedback and testing data. There are several changes in the next build:

• Channel reduced to 3 sec with corresponding adjustments to damage and Mastery values
• Mastery buff duration increased to 18 sec
• Mastery increased by ~40% even after the duration and channel changes; the current value on the PTR is essentially a bug related to accounting for lost rotation time
• Damage per sec channeled has also been increased to a lesser extent
• Bonus damage to rooted targets increased to 50%

#30 - Sept. 22, 2023, 8:11 p.m.

Healing trinkets will be seeing tuning adjustments in coming weeks.

Rashok’s Molten Heart has provided more power than we would have liked and will require some changes beyond the mana restore reduction.

#36 - Sept. 22, 2023, 9:37 p.m.

I’m referring specifically to Blossom of Amirdrassil and Smoldering Seedling here. These should feel like competitive options vs. Pip’s Emerald Friendship Badge and Ashes of the Embersoul (or any of the M+ alternatives).

If this is the case, we’d likely shift some of the budget back to damage. There were some higher-level tuning changes involved here that we need to see shake out first.

#52 - Sept. 24, 2023, 3:55 p.m.

• Damage and the cap scale at the same rate
• This is useful feedback when it comes to interacting with the trinket; the tooltip will display the remaining damage in the next PTR update
• We’ll look into these issues as potential bugs (thanks for the reports!)
• The RPPM change was made too late to make it onto the current PTR and will be reflected in the next update

As far as any modifiers go, I can see that the tooltip is misleading as-is; it has been updated to better reflect the mechanics. You can think of the cap like any other damage trinket effect when it comes to scaling with Critical Strike and Versatility. As you would probably expect, these modifiers are taken into account after the damage cap calculations so that the overall potential damage can scale in the same way as a trinket like Beacon to the Beyond.

In addition to the above changes, the duration of the buff has been decreased to 20 sec to reduce the chance of overwriting itself while the bonus critical damage has been increased to 50% to offset this shorter window. It’s not intended that players necessarily get the full value every time the trinket procs (i.e., during the lowest DPS troughs for certain specializations with low Critical Strike rating), but it should feel easy to achieve during burst windows and reasonable the rest of the time. These values will be further adjusted as needed to achieve these goals.

#60 - Sept. 29, 2023, 10:29 p.m.

This has been fixed in the next PTR build. The Seedling will now spawn at 50% HP and burn down at a much slower rate. A few other changes:

• Now grants Intellect rather than Haste
• ‘Thank you’ buff changed to Mastery from Intellect
• While the healing cap is lower as a result, it has also been buffed to reflect that it cannot benefit from critical healing (unlike Augury of the Primal Flame which can separately crit);
• The healing increase per ally healed increased by 33%

As a result of these last two changes, it should be easier to get the full value of the healing cap without using additional healing cooldowns, but combining those with this trinket is encouraged! Regarding the positioning of the seedling, it is entirely fixed in front of you with no randomness.

In other healing trinket news, Blossom of Amirdrassil has also received some changes:

• Now grants Haste rather than Intellect
• Healing significantly increased
• A bug set the threshold to proc to 20% health rather than the 85% tooltip value; this has been fixed

#63 - Sept. 29, 2023, 11:45 p.m.

This is intended and is important to its design as essentially an “execute” trinket. Unfortunately that makes it tricky to represent accurately in the tooltip, which is why it lists the min and max values.

The DoT ticks are intended to be able to crit, and you’re right that the AOE component was double-dipping with Versatility. The AOE should not have a separate crit chance from the DoT tick and is not intended to hit the initial DoT target. These bugs will be fixed in a future build. Thanks for pointing these out!

#67 - Oct. 2, 2023, 12:53 a.m.

Looks like a bug, we’ll look into it this week. My hunch is there might be an issue with multiple targets. Thanks for the report and testing effort!

#75 - Oct. 13, 2023, 5:16 p.m.

Just want to point out that circumstances that are dire when playing solo are not so dire when in a party or raid!

#94 - Nov. 7, 2023, 4 p.m.

Thanks for calling this out. We looked into this this morning and found a tuning bug that was covered up by the previous issues with errant dire circumstance procs during PTR testing. The primary stat granted by this trinket will be greatly increased in a future hotfix.

As for the AMS interaction, it is unintended that players should ever be able to immune the haste tradeoff.