#0 - Nov. 26, 2007, 3:46 p.m.
Are we going to get reimbursed for all this missing honor?
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Neth what would happen though it it's determined that not enough bonus honor was given away during that weekend? I feel it would be unlikely that any honor would be retrofitted and any changes would only be for a future AV weekend.
It's a shame because some of us worked really hard trying to gain some honor to take advantage of the Season 1 gear being released this Tuesday.
Please help :-(
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Thank you for your response.. and I agree with what others said.. it's much better than it'll be looked into although even that gave us some hope.
Neth do you have any idea where we were suppossed to earn the bonus honor from? I paid attention to tower caps and it didn't appear to come from there.. I also looked at GY caps at the end and I didn't see any additional honor from normal AV's.
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Maybe you could document it somewhere, the exact point values that different objectives are supposed to bring in. Including what exactly gets doubled on the BG weekends.
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Another issue that is gonna be swept under the rug.
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I see two possibilities.
1) bonus honor was broken for the weekend, or
2) bonus honor was being added, but it was so minimal nobody noticed it (which begs the question, whats the point of having AV weekend??)
Either way some answers are in order.
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we're not asking for our bonus honor back, since i know we cant get it back since it very hard to do so *cough* *cough* but, fix it for this WSG weekend, which i know wont happen... maybe the next weekend? just fix it...
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If you have any guts at all you'll make an official blue sticky saying what you've done so you take the proper true brunt of what you've done.
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Neth, it would be nice if you had done this BEFORE the BG weekend. Making convoluted, hard to understand rules for BGs won't work for the majority of the game.
People don't go into a BG thinking "how will me and my team maxmize our honor. They go in thinking "win the game". The way it was prior to 2.3, you knew the bare basics of "cap the tower, get more bonus honor, kill balinda, get more bonus honor"....
I'm not sure where you hid the bonus honor in AV, but no one seems to have been able to figure it out over the weekend, and having the few people who troll forums trying to explain it to the unwashed masses in AV won't affect the outcome.
I was very happy with how you changed AV to make it more of a competition, more reliant on defense and not dying, but for god's sake, getting less honor for a win now, than we used to when 30 people were afk in the cave is not acceptable.
AV bonus weekend should be attached to the straight up objectives in the game. Bonus weekend should be "Tower cap, bal/galv, GY cap, Van/Drek = double honor" If a straight up win gets you 400-500 bonus honor on a nonweekend, you should get 800-1000 bonus honor on the AV weekend.
Right now
Normal week
400-500 bonus honor for a full win (can drop as low as 200 bonus honor for a fast win)
AV weekend
400-500 bonus honor for a full win.
There is no weekend currently.... there is no bonus.... just a fancy note on your calendar.
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That is an awful reply to a very constructive post.
How about a simple explanation as to the difference between weekend honor then and now?
edit; Clarification
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Dear Nethaera,
I just wanted to thank you for your assistance in getting this resolved as quickly as possible. Though many people will continue to cry for blood, I feel that your efforts and those of the Blizzard team are commendable. I for one can state directly that my largest frustration does not lie with the changes, or their implementation, or Blizzards response. The biggest gripe that I believe myself and others would have, is the fact that with so much going on, things still slip through the cracks. It's not intentional, subversive, or planned on your, or anyones part at Blizzard for that matter. It just happens. It also doesn't make it any easier for the community to accept. We feel "at the mercy" if you will of others and that lack of control, in any situation whether game related or not, makes people nervous, resentful, and angry. If things were perfect, I think if the community would show more respect and Blizzard would be more thorough, which would be easier on everyone, but then again life isn't easy or perfect is it?
-Marteau
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Any chance of BG information this week? It would be great to understand the changes made to how bonus honor weekends work and how to maximize honor in AV specifically. Just a nice blue sticky post underlining the changes would be suitable and time efficient.
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The above is what the playerbase was questioning after the last AV weekend. The honor has been nerfed so badly that it is non-existent. The bottom line is that if the Wowwiki article is correct, then why have an bonus honor weekend anyway.
Naethera was asked to get a clarification to this situation. There has not been an offical Blizzard response and that is what is infuriating people so badly.
If they did nerf weekend bonus honor that badly then they need to come forward and admit. At least people can then decide if they really want to waste the time.
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So.... AV honor was bugged like we all said?
What's going on?