#0 - May 21, 2009, 3:31 p.m.
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Blues dont reply on class forums.
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I'm kind of curious about your Shaman experience Neth, have you played a Shaman at all in higher end raiding or arenas? If so, what spec, and did you enjoy it compared other classes you've played??
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leveling an enhancment shaman and end game Shaman are like two different games.
In one, your good, can hold your own, the playstyle is awesome and you can kill things
in the other, you suck, cant hold your own, and are basically a liability to raids and arena when compared to other classes.
You will start to realize that people are only LF priest/druids/sometimes pallies for everything PvP and PvE
Please oh Please, All im asking is that you level up to lvl 80, get geared, step in the arena as any of the three specs and see what you think.
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one of the blue responses have been directed explicitly at resto sham, there is the question thread of which i have my doubts and will take weeks to answer (neth said that herself) and the ele bug related one.
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she's spying on us!
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Im just saying that the entire thread might seem like endless QQ and asking for buffs to people who just come read it and havent played through it. I just dont want it to come off that way, and I really would like people to truly to understand where the shaman community is coming on this.
We have glaring problems and all we ask is that we have someone who understand them fully and can bring them to the table when discussion of moving the class forward comes up. I dont think its too much for the shaman community to ask for a person who fully fully fully understands us.
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Neth, if you and a rogue were dying in phase 4 mimiron i would shoot my pretty yellow laser at you and let that dirty rogue die .
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But shaman have had legitimate complaints about simple things like no Ele gear, or tedious totems for a long, long time. Like this stuff goes back to the beginning of BC. Probably further, but I didn't play a shaman before then. And nothing has been done about it.
We get asked for our opinion on totems in the Totems, Totems, Totems thread, and haven't heard ANYTHING since then, other than totem stomping macros are bad. It honestly seems like a black hole. Info and ideas go in, nothing comes out. Just look at the latest patch notes for shaman, we weren't even mentioned.
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So neth, does this whole questioning the shaman population and other classes mean that the devs are actively trying to fix us or just want to hear what we think is wrong with the class. (i know they are always working for make classes as even as possible) but can we expect any results soon or is this more of a, compilation until icecrown thing?
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How about taking a stab at these questions?
Shaman start with 500 less health then every other class. Why? I can understand how the itemization differences (even if I don't agree with how they ended up) led to where enhancement shaman are 6000 health below most other melee dps classes but why did we start so low to begin with?
Why are our Totem buffs so inferior to all the analogous buffs? It was understandable back in TBC when they were very strong so their inconveniences offset their strength but now that they can all be brought by other classes why are they still so inconvenient to use? DKs get to use all their defensive abilities while being buffed with Horn of Winter, why can't we do the same?
Elemental Shaman. They are nicely balanced with all the other dps if allowed to use Searing/Magma Totem and still receive the ToW buffs from another shaman or from a combination of a warlock + moonkin. Why not just let them have the ToW buffs whenever they have Searing/Magma totem active? Wouldn't it be more fitting to have their dps more reliant on the iconic ability of the class, totems?
Wind Shock, why does it need to share a cooldown with Earth Shock? Why does Earth Shock still need to interrupt now that we have Wind Shock? On any fight with an interrupt I either need to sacrifice a lot of dps to keep my shock cooldown free for interruption or even worse have to use another shock to avoid using Earth Shock because I could accidentally interrupt and my lockout is so short it hurts the raid rather then helping it.
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every class wants a bump in power.
When you do the Paladin questions, i guarantee all the ret pallies are going to ask for a slow or MS. Every class is going to qq their hearts out to try and get a buff. When in reality paladins are perhaps the strongest overall class in the game.
the reality is that Shamans are the worst healer and and one of the worst dps in almost every situation PvP and PvE. The shamans know it, most of the community knows it, other classes have started asking for shaman buffs.
I just want the downward skid of the shaman class to stop and for our problems to be addressed by people who understand, so this all doesnt sound like endless qq and buff asking.
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Hey Neth, when the Q&A's are answered, can as many questions as possible be answered? Even if it's just a flat out 'No' to whatever question is asked, with a little background info on the answer?
For example: saying 'No, you can't have thunderstorm moved up the ele tree because it enhancement might spec into it.'