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Dzingo
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#0 - 2009/09/24 12:18:27 PM
GhostCrawler :
"Vanish failing is a bug, but it's a hard one to fix, and rogues are dominant in both PvE and PvP despite of it, so it's also not a "all hands on deck" problem either. "

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820641443&sid=1&pageNo=3#43

Two interpretations possible here :
1) "rogues are fine, fixing it is not a priority"

2) "rogues are fine, fixing vanish would make them OP"

So which one had GC mind ?

Reading the recent rogue Q&A, I can't help thinking #2 is the right interpretation.
" We need to solve the frustration part of the ability, but not also greatly buff rogue survivability or damage potential when doing it.",

That means basically Blizzard would be balancing a class around a bug.

Interested in your opinions here 'cause, even if rogues are fine, this is a design philosophy I'm really uncomfortable with. How about frustration ? Better fix vanish and balance rogues through other means if need be.

EDIT : Vanish change in 3.3.

"We have a change for Vanish in place for 3.3. You will get to try it out soon (tm). As promised, if it proves a significant buff to rogues, we may have to compensate elsewhere. Just because it hasn't worked as intended doesn't mean it will be balanced when it does. "
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/20136596247-fix-vanish-no-more-excuses-gc.html

Thanks ! About time.

EDIT2 :
GC : "we're not going to let a broken ability stay broken just because the class is doing well. That's not good design. As I said, we may have to make adjustments in other ways"

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20136599376&sid=1&pageNo=23#455

I guess this answers my initial concern. Thanks for clarifying.

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#42 - 2009/09/28 03:00:23 PM
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We have a change for Vanish in place for 3.3. You will get to try it out soon (tm). As promised, if it proves a significant buff to rogues, we may have to compensate elsewhere. Just because it hasn't worked as intended doesn't mean it will be balanced when it does.

As stated above, we are looking into ways of changing the Vanish mechanic. We have seen quite a bit of feedback regarding this ability for a while now, and wanted to give you a small heads up and let you know that we have not forgotten about you.