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#1 - 2013/04/18 08:29:00 AM
On my hunter the proc lasts 20 seconds...

On my rogue it's like 40 seconds? o.O

Oh and tested on dummies the proc is indeed only 20 sec but in pvp it's 40.. LOL nice bug

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#6 - 2013/04/18 10:05:00 AM
18/04/2013 09:37Posted by Yvònne
It procs and i got 6900 agi for 40 seconds.. ???
This is actually just the tooltip not being updated yet as that requires a client patch. If you check your character sheet while in either Battlegrounds or Arena, you will see that the effect only applies 4400 Agility or Strength and the duration of the buff has been doubled.

This effectively halves the burst potential of the trinket and doubles its duration. This results in the damage being much easier to heal, but lasts a longer amount of time. So this isn't actually a bug, it's an intended change, the tooltip for the buff just isn't updated yet.

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#13 - 2013/04/18 10:40:00 AM
18/04/2013 11:08Posted by Yvònne
Btw nakatoir any reason you guys don't just remove it completely from pvp?
Because that is not our intent. Our end goal is not to prohibit PvE gear in PvP, if it was, that is what we would do. There is actually a question about PvE items in PvP, in the upcoming "Ask the Devs — The Answers" blog. Keep an eye out for that as we plan for this to go live tomorrow.

18/04/2013 11:18Posted by Mírion
This effectively halves the burst potential of the trinket and doubles its duration. This results in the damage being much easier to heal, but lasts a longer amount of time


Question is what genius who came up with this idea.

None wants Pve trinkets in PvP, NONE. Why even make it viable? 4k agility for 40 seconds is almost better then 20 seconds because certain hunter rogue healer comps only have 40 seconds games <.<
Don't forget that in 5.3, this trinket will also be getting scaled back to iLevel 496. This means that the stat proc will be getting lowered with the reduced iLevel and then halved as well when inside Battlegrounds and Arena. So in 5.3, the affect of this trinket will be diminished even further.

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#19 - 2013/04/18 10:59:00 AM
18/04/2013 11:42Posted by Mírion
From what Holinka has said about the trinket on twitter the trinket has been nerfed to 498ilvl stat wise(item budget as a 496 item) already so it shouldn't even get changed when you enter arenas in 5.3. This is a stupid solution to a broken trinket that doesn't work. It's still to good, the trinket needs to get lowered to the PvP trinkets stats, in other words 3k agility tops for it to not be overpowered.
Indeed he did, but he was referring to what they procced for in PvP before this new hotfix, which is 6908. So you can deduce from this that the value of the stat proc in 5.3 will be approximately 3454, with Superluminal lasting 40 seconds and Surge of Strength lasting 30 seconds. This number is almost 1000 less than the current proc amount after the hotfix, and only slightly higher than the number you mentioned.

So after the 5.3 patch and even now, the damage bonus provided by these trinkets is much more manageable than what it was previously, but it simply lasts longer.