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#1 - 2012/10/03 10:42:00 AM
Please can you make the same changes have you make to Honor gear to Conquest gear.

With the changes to PvP gear, namely with them having two secondary stats on them, Conquest gear is superior to loots from heroics, craftable 476 loot, and all LFR loot. In other words, you are forcing players who wish to have the best possible gear for PvE raiding into arenas and rated battlegrounds, which is exactly what Vaneras said you would not do ("Players who enjoy PvE shouldn’t feel forced to PvP to get the best gear, and vice versa.")

I really do not want to, or have the time to, farm Conquest points for raiding, yet players that also do arena and/or RBGs (or even grinding normal BGs) have a disproportionate advantage over players that do not in PvE, which is surely not your intention.

See here for examples of players who have started to farm Conquest points because it is the best gear you can get until you have an equivalent piece of normal mode raid gear:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Doomhammer/Pins/advanced
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Cho'Gall/Cika/advanced
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Zul'Jin/Brunixx/advanced

I know you want there to be a crossover to encourage PvPers to PvE and vice versa. However, having BIS PvP gear available and farmable so early on, with utility in both PvP and PvE, is not fair on PvEers, who have to grind raids to get better gear.

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#3 - 2012/10/03 12:39:00 PM
The Conquest PvP gear is intended to be equivalent to raiding gear, not heroic dungeon or justice points gear. So you are actually comparing apples to oranges, where apples are clearly better than oranges and that is the natural order of things :p

If you compare the two items below you can see that they are quite similar overall and can potentially be used in both settings, but each one is clearly better for its intended purpose of either PvP or PvE:
Malevolent Gladiator's Warboots of Cruelty
Jasper Clawfeet

The reason that these are better for their specific roles (even though there are major stat differences) is because while PvP power and resilience do not influence PvE in any way, they have a large impact on PvP.

So this is why the Honor and Justice points gear is being changed but not Raiding and Conquest; because PvP and PvE gear of the same level are meant to be able to adequately perform both roles but be best for their intended purpose.