#0 - 2010/07/21 08:03:40 PMIncoming wall of text. Read if you're interested, if not, spare me the request for TLDR. Thanks.
Toughness - Mandatory, but all tanks pretty much have it, so no big deal.
Seals of the Pure - I'm OK with the mild threat talent at the top here, but it is disappointing that it only effects seal damage. It's considered a lackluster talent on live when it increases Judgment damage as well, and we lost that portion of it? It's being taken at this point only because 20 seconds off HoJ is really useless.
Imp HoJ - PvP talent for Holy and Ret. We get it, you needed to give them something to sub spec into. Could you try to make it interesting for us somehow? Maybe by creating a bottom of the tree talent that reduces the cooldown further, removes the stun component, and MAKES IT OUR INTERRUPT? Just asking...
Judgements of the Just - I'm glad this is in range for other spec'd paladins to take, even though I highly doubt they will. However, it does still frustrate me that it only effects one target at a time as opposed to Thunderclap, but that's a minor inconvenience.
Protector of the Innocent - Can you just remove this talent please? First of all, it's probably going to feel mandatory for Holy Pallies to bring 6% extra healing (yay, they've replaced Druids!), which gives them no ability to go into Ret instead if they want PoJ, Crusade, or Rule of Law. Secondly, if you aren't giving us 3% extra DR, you might give paladins and warriors the same stamina scaling. The fact is, the average pug leader in this game is stupid. They don't understand the basics of "DR" and "EH", they look at the health bars, and whoever is winning the "health bar epeen contest" is who MT's. Period. I've had someone make the druid MT the boss over me because he had 700 more health. No matter how many times everyone tried to point out that if he only had 700 more health than me, I grossly outgeared him. Please don't expect a PuG raid leader to know that 3% DR will result in less healing, they won't. They'll just make me OT adds.
Guardian's Favor - Meh, Ret/Holy PvP talent again. We get it, again. But did we REALLY need two ret/holy PvP talents in our tree that are borderline useful as tanks? I guess it at least gives us places that we know we'll never put our talents... but that doesn't feel like "choice" there at all.
Divine Guardian - This is grossly OP, and pretty much guarantees that every raid will need a minimum of one prot pally, even if we don't get our other issues fixed. Is this OP cooldown why you're not giving us a workable AD? Are you planning to do anything to make sure that DG's can't be chained by just making all your tanks prot pallies? 20% DR for the entire raid is just too much.
Sanctuary - Thank you for making this not a blessing anymore. Really, that was getting annoying! Better place for crit immunity too. Can we talk about the mana return percentage, now that we don't have SA anymore? 3% is nothing. I mean, it's awesome when we go pull insane amounts of trash to never run out of mana, but I'm worried about where we used to have SA, we're hosed now. Is Divine Plea still lvl 71? What are little lowbie pallies supposed to do for mana? I know everyone likes to say the game starts at max level, but it doesn't. It starts at 1, and that's especially important for this expansion. PLEASE make sure little lowbie pallies have mana to tank their SM runs. And make sure I don't run out when tanking Ragnaros v. 2.0.
Hallowed Ground - I find myself iffy on this talent... I can see it being useful if we needed the 20% extra damage on it, but I have a hard time believing I won't be able to push the button every 15 seconds or so. I just can't see the 20% extra damage on it being more important than other options I could put the points towards in Ret or Holy.
Wrath of the Faithful - Again, feeling iffy. I mean, thanks for the damage buff and crit strike buff, and thanks for giving us some sort of snap AoE threat. Really! But if we're not really having a world of "AoE the ever loving hell out of every instance from start to finish" like Wrath, and CC and single target nuking down the dangerous bad guys is important... then I only need to keep Bad Guy off my healer. Snap aggro is great. YAY! But do I really need to use 2 talent points to increase its damage/threat? Or will I keep aggro off my healer as is? And why do I really feel like I may need to use my dual spec for an AoE build and a Boss build?
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