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#1 - 2011/07/19 02:20:00 AM
Due to some recent player feedback we’ve made the decision to implement a hotfix that will put Valor Points back on the bosses in Blackwing Descent, Bastion of Twilight, and Throne of the Four Winds (except Argoloth).

We agreed that players should have some additional options for earning Valor Points beyond Firelands, Zandalari dungeons, and tier 11 Heroic difficulty raids. We don’t want raiding guilds to feel like they have to raid Firelands AND the old raids every week, but we do want players to feel like they have some options besides running ZA/ZG over and over.

Bosses in these raids will award 35 VP on 10-player normal difficulty, and 45 VP on 25-player normal difficulty, to match the rewards currently offered for the Heroic versions of those encounters.

This change should be live within the next few hours. You can stay informed about the latest hotfixes by checking the Patch 4.2 Hotfixes article for updates: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3019413

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#153 - 2011/07/19 08:32:00 AM
Congratulations guys.

Maybe next week you can have them send you Tier 13 directly to your mailbox.


I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, but only a few slots are actually available to purchase with VP, and not in fact entire tier sets.

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#158 - 2011/07/19 09:04:00 AM
07/19/2011 01:49 AMPosted by Gariss
Still, the point is you will allow people who have never set foot in Firelands to overgear the content, when the fights are tuned for people in T 11 gear, in particular the early bosses.


Overgear the content with a few valor items? Come on now.

No matter what anyone wants to think about ilvl or what a few set pieces can offer, people aren't going to equip some valor boots and suddenly start rolling over bosses.

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#211 - 2011/07/19 06:55:00 PM
Overgear the content with a few valor items? Come on now.

No matter what anyone wants to think about ilvl or what a few set pieces can offer, people aren't going to equip some valor boots and suddenly start rolling over bosses.


Part of the appeal to raiding is getting the exclusive rewards. These changes as of late make detract from that. Raiding rewards are no longer exclusive to raiders. The current environment would be the equivalent of if Molten Core items dropped from UBRS and Stratholme.

Or if people thought that getting ilvl 346 gear was too hard, you would allow them to get the items through fishing.

Sure, just getting the gear alone isn't going to make the bosses fall over at your feet. But the gear represents more than just the ability to kill bosses. It represents an achievement in the game. Now that every person of every class walks around looking identical, you hardly have any idea who has accomplished what.


And this hotfix changes absolutely nothing about someone's ability to get valor rewards.

The change is that instead of chain-running troll dungeons to cap VP they have an additional option. Adding that additional option doesn't suddenly make the valor rewards more accessible. Especially because the option that's being added is entirely less accessible than what's been available this entire time.

You can make an argument that current tier shouldn't be available for purchase with Valor at all, that's a valid opinion to state. But that's a different topic.

What you're saying is that by us adding additional but less accessible ways (raids) to obtain VP that it somehow makes the rewards less meaningful than they were when people could 'only use Dungeon Finder' to get them. Sorry but that just doesn't make any sense.