#0 - Aug. 31, 2006, 1:24 p.m.
If this question was asked before pls answer me anyway thx :)
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I am a lvl 18 druid as you see, so I want to know the answer: If a druid fights a shaman who will win???
If this question was asked before pls answer me anyway thx :)
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And wow, I didn't think we'd need to know so much before deciding. :o
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care to make the same reply.
For a druid and a shamen same lvl with = gear?
say lvl 60.
You that brave?
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indeed its is.
But considering how each class can counter abilities, it is plain to see a shaman comes on-top, very easily.
Now to throw in loads of nonsensical variables is just simply stretching out the whole debate.
I am surprised at the post.
Granted players can use differencial lvl if skill to win.
But look at the scenario from two equal geared and skilled players.
Who has the advantage in this encounter?
With out bringing in mods/UI player luck (not a factor in this match up, since a shamen can afford to make many mistakes).
It is plain to see who the winner will be each time.
Also care to reply on!
Rogues with 30% dodge chance to druids attacks? Care to explain how a druid can get around that problem?
A warrior in Full T2 epics!
Warlocks in Greens (why is diminshing returns reset after a shift, care to explain why?, hence locking a druid out completely or making him use one form, impossible even to low geared locks)
Paladin’s In T2+ equipment.
And shamen’s that can counter almost all our abilities:
Eathbind/Tremour totem/ES/FS/Purge.
Mages ice, so many options to slow and force to shift, +T epics great +damage what can a druid bring here?
Anyway this will be seen as some random ramblings.
So be it, don’t take my word for it get some testers with PVP with druid V classes in equal gear at lvl 60 and see the difference.
Anyway I sense ppl are taking note.
The druid class is the weakest pvp class in the game but I suppose one class has to be.
Think it would be too damaging for you guys to actually admit it though.
thanks for the post regardless i thought these forums where almost forgotten at least thats something.
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Alright i'll give it a try. I will take the duels i have fought into consideration.
- What level are the Druid and the Shaman? Both level 60 - as its there i see a problem with druids :)
- What armor do they wear? Let's give them both PVP gear rank 13, as it's suppose to be more or less equal for all classes.
- What weapons do they use? Both using End of Dreams with Tome og knowledge.
- What buffs do they have? Shaman has none except lightning shield and druid has thorns + motw (which both is normally removed within seconds of the fight)
- What are their professions and can those professions have an influence on the outcome of the match? Both has no profession and are unable to use pots during the fight.
- How have they spent their talent points? Druid is speced in whatever way you see him able to win the fight while the shaman is enhancement speced.
- Are they experienced and skillful players? Both skillful players who has been playing the game since the start and are in high-end guilds. They have both equal interrest in how the game works and both spend a lot of time studying classes.
- Are they using add-ons instead of the default UI? both use standard raiding helping UI's such as CTmod and decursive. Rest of the interface is default.
- Are they dueling or is the fight a random PvP encounter? Straight up duel.
- If the fight is a random PvP encounter, who attacks first? We'll keep it a duel.
- How big an influence will luck have on the fight? both with 25% crit chance. I dont know the odds of luck with that but i hope you do :)
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ill tell ya, more skilled player will usualy win, also depends a lot on gear and luck
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Say that when fighting a skilled warlock;)
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A balance druid would do NOTHING to a shaman .What he can do ? Spam wrath ? or starfire ? Shamans can heal with 1,5 sec casting time heals for 1200~ and druid's only interruption is Bash ( in bear form) which is on 1 minute cooldown , which can also be parried missed and dodged, also feral charge which is kinda pointless for spell interrupting , because druid does not have burst damage to finish opponent after the 4 secound "silence" that feral charge caused.
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Are you playing against level 60 epic geared warlocks ? guess not ;)
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Anyway dont change the subject
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now why can't druids be like that for a change... of all the classes we've never had an uber period... when the game came out... there were 3 gimped classes.... Druid, Warlock and Priest ..... only druids remain ... priests can be sooo UBER.. they have main roles too..
druids don't, . druids can be healers, can be dpsers, can be tanks.. but they need to spec in one tree... and at the moment, abilities AND gear don't support them as well for those specialisastions as they do healing, so druids aren't ever taken unless there is a shortage of healers..u know what i mean. And there is no UBER druid spec, neither any gear that makes druids will awesome -- if only some nnice choice abilities for each role/tree and shifting gear.. that would sor it
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Enough!
My friends! My goompas! ;p
Only one way to anwser this riddle ... MORTAL SHAMAN vs DRUID COMBAT (tm) !!!
Yes its a challange!
A druid vs shaman fight.
Here are the rules!
1) Those who say that druids can beat shamans (That would be you Vaneras) will get a druid at lvl 60 with T1 or T2 or PvP gear. Those who opose will meet him with EQUAL gear. T1 for T1, T2 for T2 etc.
Choice of weapons is optional BUT must be accecable (probably misspelled that) to a normal player (one that isnt merged with his Wow playing machine).
2) Spec as you like!
3) There are 5 duels! Between duels both fighters can switch specs. (5 duels to minimise the "luck" factor).
4) Specs are announced before the duel to reduce the "surprise" factor.
5) Each side can choose up to 3 fighters! Each fighter will fight 5 duels with every fighter of the oposite side (15 duels total).
At the end of MORTAL SHAMAN vs DRUID COMBAT (tm) the great dillema will be solved!
Do ye all accept this challange?