RSS feed2008-08-29 22:37:03
Listen to the damn paladin community before making stupid changes like the one made with Vengeance and Judgements of the Wise.
Ret pallys were told that their mana issues would be resolved in WOTLK.
-Result: Class changes were fantastic, mana was no longer an issue.
Gear normalisation occurred, meaning that Ret pallys can wear warrior plate
-Result: Lack of +int made no difference, because of the addition to JotW
People complained about Ret pally burst damage
-Result: Blizz nerfed Vengeance and broke judgements completely
Blizz nerfed JotW
-Result:
The changes to JotW are just plain bloody stupid, whoever came up with the idea should be slapped upside the head.
JotW is now pretty much a complete waste of talent points. The ret pally has the lowest mana pool therefore gets the least benefit from this talent.
The main problem this entire time has been our burst damage, this has been acknowledged.
Nerfing Vengeance affects our SUSTAINED damage rather than our burst damage.
The mana returns from JotW was a bit OP BECAUSE of our burst damage!
Revert the changes to JotW, fix the burst damage and we're no longer OP....its really not that difficult.
Normal judgements are fine, I was getting around 3k crits... not overpowered.
My suggestions, which I think most ret pallys would agree with:
1) Revert the change to JotW and Vengeance
2) Remove the double-damage on Judgement of Command and replace it with something else.
I'm sure the paladin community would be more than happy to help you with this.
My idea for Judgement of Command would be to make it a spell interrupt.
SoComm IS our dps seal and the one most likely to be used in PvE and PvP. With this being the case, we will pretty much always be using it. Therefore, having an interrupt every 8 seconds is not overpowered...given that kick and pummel have a similiar cooldown and if I remember correctly, they dont have a global cooldown.
Whomever came up with the ideas for the most recent paladin changes clearly has no idea.... given that we're here to give you feedback, why not utilise us to PROPOSE changes first and those whom have a great deal of experience can give you feedback on it beforehand?
This would mean that if a change was proposed and got shot down in flames (as JotW would have been) you would still have people testing the content without having to wait another week or more for a patch.
Since judgements got broken, I've only logged onto the beta for about 15 minutes in total, because my paladin was the only toon that I wanted to level on the beta.
....now I dont think its too likely that I will continue beta testing this
Ret pallys were told that their mana issues would be resolved in WOTLK.
-Result: Class changes were fantastic, mana was no longer an issue.
Gear normalisation occurred, meaning that Ret pallys can wear warrior plate
-Result: Lack of +int made no difference, because of the addition to JotW
People complained about Ret pally burst damage
-Result: Blizz nerfed Vengeance and broke judgements completely
Blizz nerfed JotW
-Result:
The changes to JotW are just plain bloody stupid, whoever came up with the idea should be slapped upside the head.
JotW is now pretty much a complete waste of talent points. The ret pally has the lowest mana pool therefore gets the least benefit from this talent.
The main problem this entire time has been our burst damage, this has been acknowledged.
Nerfing Vengeance affects our SUSTAINED damage rather than our burst damage.
The mana returns from JotW was a bit OP BECAUSE of our burst damage!
Revert the changes to JotW, fix the burst damage and we're no longer OP....its really not that difficult.
Normal judgements are fine, I was getting around 3k crits... not overpowered.
My suggestions, which I think most ret pallys would agree with:
1) Revert the change to JotW and Vengeance
2) Remove the double-damage on Judgement of Command and replace it with something else.
I'm sure the paladin community would be more than happy to help you with this.
My idea for Judgement of Command would be to make it a spell interrupt.
SoComm IS our dps seal and the one most likely to be used in PvE and PvP. With this being the case, we will pretty much always be using it. Therefore, having an interrupt every 8 seconds is not overpowered...given that kick and pummel have a similiar cooldown and if I remember correctly, they dont have a global cooldown.
Whomever came up with the ideas for the most recent paladin changes clearly has no idea.... given that we're here to give you feedback, why not utilise us to PROPOSE changes first and those whom have a great deal of experience can give you feedback on it beforehand?
This would mean that if a change was proposed and got shot down in flames (as JotW would have been) you would still have people testing the content without having to wait another week or more for a patch.
Since judgements got broken, I've only logged onto the beta for about 15 minutes in total, because my paladin was the only toon that I wanted to level on the beta.
....now I dont think its too likely that I will continue beta testing this
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