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With the new coding of adding mind flays ability to crit comes dire consequences.
BLUE PLEASE address this issue and fix it asap.
After reading about how MF is bugged to hell on shadowpriest.com I decided to take to the dummies and test it out for myself. Here's what I've noticed about mind flay post 3.0:
-MF randomly misses on bosses (this should be IMPOSSIBLE) at hit cap with misery up on the target
-The last two ticks of MF happen at the end of the cast bar and tick very close to each other (as opposed to before 3.0 when it ticked in even intervals)
-When MF's debuff dissipates from the target the last tick occurs AFTER it has fallen off the target. (This is not the case with other dots- the last tick happens before SWP and VT dissipate. Blatant bug.)
-MF's last tick occurs AFTER the casting bar is over and often gets clipped
-With the use of a no channeling macro MF can still clip the last tick because it is occurring after the cast is over. FYI for those of you blaming lag this NEVER happened pre-3.0 and should be impossible with the usage of the following macro when spamming only it over and over:
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Mind Flay
With my tests MF is getting clipped unintentionally & after the cast bar is finished casting about 30% of the time. To clarify this means roughly 3 out of 10 Mind Flays have the chance to clip the last tick when spamming MF over and over with use of the above no channeling Mind Flay macro.
Blizzard please fix this. This is a huge disappointment especially after the VT and utility nerfs on us.
Reference: http://www.shadowpri
Other Shadow Priest bugs: http://www.shadowpri
I was hoping that people might have a discussion about this as well and share their experiences with buggy MF.
Also like to get the word out in case most people hadn't noticed it was being clipped. I know I hadn't.
More people that know the more that will bug Blizzard to get this issue fixed. It is a sizable DPS loss.
Edit: Updating with my later post from below.
Okay so I was bored and decided to play with MF again, was averaging 70ms.
Waiting out my cast bar to hit zero with MF casting and if I cast ANYTHING other than MF after it finishes casting it's a guaranteed 3rd tick clip with and without a nochanneling MF macro applied to VT, mind blast etc. It's not just averaging up to 30% chance of clipping like with spamming the MF macro over and over, it's a guaranteed third tick clip.
Terrible. I really hope this wasn't intentional... If you pause a second after the mind flay cast bar is over it tends to hit but that's a dps loss as well and prevents us from being able to spam our keys like other classes can.
If there is still some speculation regarding this issue then try this:
Log on a shadow priest, locate a test dummy and make these macros:
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Mind Blast
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Shadow Word: Death
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Vampiric Embrace
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Devouring Plague
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Vampiric Touch
Now cast one Mind Flay before each one of the above macros and you'll see what we are all so upset about. Mind Flay is being clipped whenever we cast one of these spells or any spell directly after the cast bar is finished (it is not just exclusively affected by those in our main dps rotations). These nochanneling macros do not prevent Mind Flay tick clips ever since 3.0! They always prevented it before, what happened? This is proof that the last tick is occurring after our cast bar is over. Using these macros we should be seeing zero Mind Flay clips no matter how fast we spam our keys as the next spell we hit should not be casting before Mind Flay is over. However it clips Mind Flay each and every time.
To the devs: It would be great if you could acknowledge that you are having the same problem and we aren't all just crazy. & please please say you'll do something about it. This problem is going to hurt us in Wrath.
WOTLK update:
I'd like to confirm that I'm having further problems with MF in Wrath as others have reported late in this thread. Despite being hit capped sometimes when I hit my Mind Flay button nothing happens but it starts the GCD and I lose the mana it costs to cast it. Furthermore there is no Miss evident in my combat log. I have seen this randomly happen up to four times in a row.
BLUE PLEASE address this issue and fix it asap.
After reading about how MF is bugged to hell on shadowpriest.com I decided to take to the dummies and test it out for myself. Here's what I've noticed about mind flay post 3.0:
-MF randomly misses on bosses (this should be IMPOSSIBLE) at hit cap with misery up on the target
-The last two ticks of MF happen at the end of the cast bar and tick very close to each other (as opposed to before 3.0 when it ticked in even intervals)
-When MF's debuff dissipates from the target the last tick occurs AFTER it has fallen off the target. (This is not the case with other dots- the last tick happens before SWP and VT dissipate. Blatant bug.)
-MF's last tick occurs AFTER the casting bar is over and often gets clipped
-With the use of a no channeling macro MF can still clip the last tick because it is occurring after the cast is over. FYI for those of you blaming lag this NEVER happened pre-3.0 and should be impossible with the usage of the following macro when spamming only it over and over:
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Mind Flay
With my tests MF is getting clipped unintentionally & after the cast bar is finished casting about 30% of the time. To clarify this means roughly 3 out of 10 Mind Flays have the chance to clip the last tick when spamming MF over and over with use of the above no channeling Mind Flay macro.
Blizzard please fix this. This is a huge disappointment especially after the VT and utility nerfs on us.
Reference: http://www.shadowpri
Other Shadow Priest bugs: http://www.shadowpri
I was hoping that people might have a discussion about this as well and share their experiences with buggy MF.
Also like to get the word out in case most people hadn't noticed it was being clipped. I know I hadn't.
More people that know the more that will bug Blizzard to get this issue fixed. It is a sizable DPS loss.
Edit: Updating with my later post from below.
Okay so I was bored and decided to play with MF again, was averaging 70ms.
Waiting out my cast bar to hit zero with MF casting and if I cast ANYTHING other than MF after it finishes casting it's a guaranteed 3rd tick clip with and without a nochanneling MF macro applied to VT, mind blast etc. It's not just averaging up to 30% chance of clipping like with spamming the MF macro over and over, it's a guaranteed third tick clip.
Terrible. I really hope this wasn't intentional... If you pause a second after the mind flay cast bar is over it tends to hit but that's a dps loss as well and prevents us from being able to spam our keys like other classes can.
If there is still some speculation regarding this issue then try this:
Log on a shadow priest, locate a test dummy and make these macros:
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Mind Blast
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Shadow Word: Death
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Vampiric Embrace
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Devouring Plague
#showtooltip
/cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Vampiric Touch
Now cast one Mind Flay before each one of the above macros and you'll see what we are all so upset about. Mind Flay is being clipped whenever we cast one of these spells or any spell directly after the cast bar is finished (it is not just exclusively affected by those in our main dps rotations). These nochanneling macros do not prevent Mind Flay tick clips ever since 3.0! They always prevented it before, what happened? This is proof that the last tick is occurring after our cast bar is over. Using these macros we should be seeing zero Mind Flay clips no matter how fast we spam our keys as the next spell we hit should not be casting before Mind Flay is over. However it clips Mind Flay each and every time.
To the devs: It would be great if you could acknowledge that you are having the same problem and we aren't all just crazy. & please please say you'll do something about it. This problem is going to hurt us in Wrath.
WOTLK update:
I'd like to confirm that I'm having further problems with MF in Wrath as others have reported late in this thread. Despite being hit capped sometimes when I hit my Mind Flay button nothing happens but it starts the GCD and I lose the mana it costs to cast it. Furthermore there is no Miss evident in my combat log. I have seen this randomly happen up to four times in a row.
[ Post edited by Laethia ]
Laethia
