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Druids are having 4 talent trees?
Well, my worst fears are slowly becoming true. The druid used to have 3 tress.

-Resto: Being a competent healer

-Balance: Being a range spell dps

-Feral: To be a melee hybrid between tanking and dps. Not the best at either but pretty darn good, especially at tanking.

And Blizzard is now shifting druid to a 4 tree class

-Resto

-Balance

-Feral cat

-Feral bear

And as I read in previous posts, giving us new talents to just compensate for poor itemization does not make us more powerful. I mean, I'd have to take those 6 talent points to compensate the lost of armor/agi from switching from T6 feral to crap lvl80 rogue blues.

If Blizzard keeps this up, I'm really hoping we can match a prot warrior in tanking or a rogue in dps because right now, I see no spot for a feral in a 25 man raid (and I'm not even going to talk about our lack of utility...leader of the lol pack? And if you want battle rez or innervate, ask the mookin or resto in the raid)

I'm seriously not getting the concept behind those changes
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Xyriana
Re: Druids are having 4 talent trees?

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Blizz has never acknowledged that cat DPS is terrible on live.


Cat DPS is terrible on live.

Now I know there are some cats at the tops of their damage meters. It happens. But I also know a lot of players who got the best gear they could, learned their class inside and out, and then cried when they saw how far they were below other melee dps.

If you like the hybrid nature of the Feral and enjoyed switching from tank to dps at a moment's notice, we haven't really done much to take that away from you. And even if you try to max out your cat potential, you're still probably going to be a pretty effective tank in many situations.
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Ghostcrawler
Re: Druids are having 4 talent trees?

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I expect the intent is for a cat specced druid to tank as well as a DPS warrior or DK or a ret paladin.
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I expect this as well but getting a solid "Yes, you will tank as well as a Fury Warrior if you spec for Cat Form."


That sound about right. A cat spec'd Feral made an amazing OT for Karazhan and even Zul'Aman and for the larger pulls in the 25-player content. You were certainly better OTs than DPS warriors or ret paladins in BC. I suspect you will still be a little better than a dps warrior just because the difference between your +dps and +tanking specs is fewer talent points than the difference between a Fury and Prot warrior. But all talents are not created equal and you can't necessarily identify the best tank by the number of talent points they've spent.

Sorry my yes isn't more solid. It's hard to get into the realm of "You can be a 5% less effective tank if you spend 10% fewer talent points but maintain 15% superior dps" or whatever. :)

Part of the Feral design is flexibility. We don't want to lose that.
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Ghostcrawler