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Which classes are "done"?
The talk of the beta town lately is the recent announcement that 3.0, and with it the WotLK talents and abilities, will be going Live in a timeframe of weeks.

"The coming weeks" does not suggest a lengthy period of time.

I haven't been in beta as long as most (only a couple of weeks) but I will tell you right now that WotLK is not ready for release.

There's still time to implement and test content. With 3.0 does not come Northrend, nor does it come Northrend's dungeons and raids, nor does it come with Northrend's battleground or World PvP. What does come with 3.0 are class talents and abilities.

Those aren't ready either.

A number of classes have received almost no review throughout the entire beta process. Shaman and Rogues come to mind as classes that both have not had any serious class changes throughout the beta and have still-NYI talents that nobody's even been able to test. Murder Spree, the Combat 51-point, has never worked and nobody has any idea how powerful it will or won't be. If the talent goes live a week before 3.0 and it turns out it's horrible and needs a total rework- well, rogues certainly won't be happy. My finger isn't exactly on the pulse of the Shaman community but I'm sure they have many unanswered concerns.

Another class I've been following is Mages. Mages did have a back-and-forth with the Devs, but it abruptly stopped and the devs went off to other classes. Mages still have a number of issues that were never addressed or arose during the Beta process. For instance, the Arcane tree is almost completely untestable from a PvE DPS standpoint because Arcane Blast's mana cost is ludicrously high and more than likely bugged (1000 mana or so at 80). Arcane Blast is a spell that needs a lot of feedback that can't be given due to sweeping changes to its mechanics.

I'm sure that Shaman, Rogues, and Mages aren't alone in their concerns for their class and still feel that a lot more work could be done. These are simply the classes I follow the most closely.

This isn't meant to be a complaint or a QQ post. It's not a criticism of the fine work you've done so far on the expansion. I realize this is Beta and there is still work to be done. I am simply concerned.

How much time do classes who have gotten very little developer attention lately have to test their abilities? How long will they have to wait for some of their talents to even be implemented?

Which classes are done, which classes are not, and how many changes can we expect for classes who have received very little attention?


If a blue takes the time to respond to this, thank you very much for addressing my concern. I love the expansion very much so far, and would hate to see it dragged down by a rush to meet a deadline.

Other players, feel free to add your own thoughts on the matter. Bear in mind, this isn't a doomcrying thread. This isn't a complaining thread. This is simply an attempt, partially of concern and partially of curiousity, to see where classes are standing at the moment and where we hope to see them go.
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Veldren
Re: Which classes are "done"?
None of the classes are done. They are still being iterated on. 3.0 will be on the PTR's soon. There is still a lot of testing before 3.0 would go live to public servers.

If you look back at past patches, we've had patches on the PTR for over 2 months before.
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Tigole